[Nordskogen] Re: Regarding demos

[Gwen Trevirensis]

PS, I'm not sure how much longer we will be living in Minnesota, but while
we're here I am willing to help anyone that needs help.  I have reference
books, period patterns with documentation, even scraps of leather, linen and
wool for any that can make use of them.

Gwen

On 7/18/06, Gwen Trevirensis <gwen.trevirensis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It IS the Society for CREATIVE Anachronism.  At BEST the SCA is cherry
> picking history, NOT 100% accurate depiction of history.  Yes, a demo is
> supposed to be impressive, but not to the point that you are excluding new
> people that WANT to participate.  People need to lighten up a little.  I am
> not new to the SCA,  just new to this Barony.  I must say there does seem to
> be a small group of people that seem to WANT to control things.  I've been
> trying to help people and I was WARNED that people in this barony won't
> stand for trying to form a guild in order to get power...WOAH...gee what a
> PLEASANT welcome and thank you for TRYING to help people.
>
> As far as periodness getting MORE slack, I've been in the SCA off and on
> for 20 years.  Most people were wearing Gunny Sax dresses, tennis shoes and
> the men hippie tunics with sweat pants...oh and pickle barrel armour...The
> SCA has become heaps and bounds BETTER.
> It CAN BE a FUN and fantastic way to learn about history.  PLEASE do not
> get discouraged and stop participating.
>
> Gwen
>
>
> On 7/17/06, bric0058 <bric0058 at umn.edu> wrote:
> >
> > bravo!
> >
> > when this thread first started, i was very excited about the prospect of
> > taking part in a demo that would hopefully be more informative and
> > accessable to the general public than a regular event. i've been playing
> >
> > for almost a year and have been activly trying to engage mundane friends
> > in
> > the society since i started. for me, an oppertunity such as this is yet
> > another way to spread the enthusiasm that i, and i'm sure all of you,
> > have
> > for the society.
> >
> > however, all this talk about making sure that every single little detail
> > is
> > accurate has killed any desire on my part to join in on this. i know
> > that i
> > am not the only one on this list that is at a point where total accuracy
> > is
> > completely impossible. for a lot of people in the society, it is a
> > matter
> > of placing things like rent first, so buying 9 yards of silk velvet for
> > a
> > sideless surcote is completely outside the realm of possiblity.
> >
> > i also wonder about what type of impression we would leave on people who
> > DO
> > have a genuine interest in joining. although i whole-heartedly believe
> > that
> > we do need people who have perfected their chosen period and personna,
> > we
> > also need to show the general populace that involvement is a process. we
> > need to be able to show people that they can start out with good
> > intentions
> > and maybe a few years down the road have a period wardrobe and
> > encampment.
> >
> > i also applaud elizabeth for bringing up the point of being ACCESSABLE.
> > i've personally found it to be very, very difficult to meet people up
> > here
> > because there seems to be all of these iron-clad cliques. i feel that
> > more
> > people, not just the handful that always make every effort to be
> > inclusive,
> > should actually step up and try to make newcomers feel welcome. i feel
> > that
> > this group is missing out on so many oppertunities because of this.
> >
> > well, that was my two cents (and then some)...
> >
> > -galina
> >
> >
> >
> > On 17 Jul 2006, Gwen Trevirensis wrote:
> > > Yes,  there is a BIG difference between OFFERING to help people become
> > "more
> > > period"  than imposing YOUR views of what YOU think being peiod
> > entails.
> > > I'm not advocating going around with a pink flaminco, I'm saying that
> > in
> > > truth, how many mundane people off the street are even going to KNOW
> > the
> > > difference between linen and cotton?
> > >
> > > I can hear it now "I'm going to write to Martha staright away, those
> > > imposters were wearing cotton, HOW gauche".  Or "I feel SO cheated
> > that I
> > > didn't get to see real linen".  Pulease...
> > >
> > >
> > > If people WANT to participate, as Martha would say "It's a good
> > thing".
> > My
> > > opinion is that it should be ENCOURAGED.
> > >
> > > As far a intentions go, they pave to way, it is said.....is it really
> > a
> > > place you want to go to?
> > >
> > > Gwen
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/17/06, Elizabeth Chase < elizabethlchase at msn.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Then, perhaps different words could be employed.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps some sort of shocking behaviour like being attentive and
> > courteous
> > > > to all instead of huddling in your own separate group and using body
> > > > language that indicate approachability.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps a 'personage' of 'rank' could 'adopt' a new person and
> > mentor
> > them
> > > > for a year as well, giving them assistance beyond the great newcomer
> > class
> > > > series begun by the Lady Bridget.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > debbil's little advocate
> > > >
> > > > Iriye
> > > >
> > > > >From: Kendra Lee <cinniu at yahoo.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: The Hall of Nordskogen
> > < nordskogen at nordskogen.northshield.org>
> > > > >To: nordskogen at nordskogen.northshield.org
> > > > >Subject: [Nordskogen] Re: Regarding demos
> > > > >Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 15:28:57 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > >
> > > > >With respect, I firmly believe that Maestra Giovanna's post was not
> > meant
> > > > >to be taken as "if you can't do this, you shouldn't come."
> > > >
> > > >
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